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| protomenace |
Posted: November 04, 2009 10:45 am
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No seriously, democracy is terrible. The masses are too dumb to decide things. When something like 60% of the population believes we have to please some invisible sky fairy with our laws I think it's time to draw the line. Leave it to the educated elite imo. |
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| Chippermonkey |
Posted: November 04, 2009 12:24 pm
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It's just ham. ![]() Offline |
The point of democracy is to hear what the people want. If people don't want that then they don't want that. You don't have to live there (I don't think you live there anyway).
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| Robert the Robot |
Posted: November 04, 2009 12:32 pm
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Civil rights and liberties (among other things) should be above what the people want.
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| Chippermonkey |
Posted: November 04, 2009 01:13 pm
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It's just ham. ![]() Offline |
Oh please, that sort of concept barely works here, with only about 20 regular people around. If you think it'll work with an entire state... LOL.
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| Robert the Robot |
Posted: November 04, 2009 01:19 pm
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What?
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| Mario_Man |
Posted: November 04, 2009 02:44 pm
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space...the final frontier ![]() Offline |
tyranny of the majority.
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| Mario_Man |
Posted: November 04, 2009 02:45 pm
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space...the final frontier ![]() Offline |
also, democracy is a logical fallacy.
ever hear of argumentam ad populam? (i know i butchered that) |
| protomenace |
Posted: November 04, 2009 02:46 pm
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Sometimes (read:usually) the people don't know what they want/is good for them. |
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| Chippermonkey |
Posted: November 04, 2009 02:47 pm
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But they clearly knew what they wanted. You can't impose your own values on a separate community, proto, no matter how much you want to. |
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| Robert the Robot |
Posted: November 04, 2009 02:48 pm
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You can't have democracy without freedom. If you limit the rights of others than you're limiting democracy to an oligarchy. |
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| protomenace |
Posted: November 04, 2009 02:48 pm
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I can try though. |
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| Shamoo |
Posted: November 04, 2009 02:51 pm
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This is the moment we all live for. ![]() Offline |
Why would anyone want to live in Maine anyway?
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| Chippermonkey |
Posted: November 04, 2009 02:51 pm
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It's just ham. ![]() Offline |
Well that's just the thing. Democracy clearly doesn't work for our society at all. This is more the "land of the free (for some)" than anything. Anybody who denies that is delusional. But at the same time I like the concept of us being a union but being able to have different states with different things allowed here and there. IDK. |
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| protomenace |
Posted: November 04, 2009 02:51 pm
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Lack of income tax... |
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| Robert the Robot |
Posted: November 04, 2009 02:54 pm
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We don't have democracy here, so you can't really say if it works or not. I mean you can stretch the term out and I'm sure you can apply it here, but largely we're a polyarchy. At BEST a republic, but that term doesn't really cut it considering how the elections are run. |
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| Shamoo |
Posted: November 04, 2009 02:56 pm
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This is the moment we all live for. ![]() Offline |
That's gay that's like people moving to fl so they can save money for when they retire, and then wind up getting screwed when there's a flood lolol
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| Robert the Robot |
Posted: November 04, 2009 02:57 pm
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oh yeah by the way the education system is corrupt too so an "educated elite" wouldn't solve much |
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| Mario_Man |
Posted: November 04, 2009 02:57 pm
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they have good lobster too. |
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| protomenace |
Posted: November 04, 2009 02:58 pm
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"educated elite" > ignorant masses |
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| Chippermonkey |
Posted: November 04, 2009 03:00 pm
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It's just ham. ![]() Offline |
What is "educated" and what is "ignorance" in this case? |
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